ourlightsinvain replied to your post “I really don’t like it how, like, Sansa has to learn that she was…”
i’m not sure i would put brienne in this category honestly (or arya, but brienne more so), but i agree that grrm has a semi-simplistic view of misfits vs cool kids and that comes through a lot in the “True Starks” vs “Tullyish Starks” sigh
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that Brienne is someone that the narrative suggests that other people should apologize to, the way it seems to with Tyrion and Jon (IMO), but neither does she have a lot of apologizing to do. When she aqnd Arya and Asha make mistakes, they’re “just” tactical errors, they don’t really seem to reflect poorly on their character. With Sansa, Cat and Arianne, I think it’s different. Dany makes the kind of mistakes that I think would qualify as reflecting poorly on character, but her victims so to speak are all non-POV’s (and eastern?) so it doesn’t bother anyone as much.
Oh, what I was getting at more with Brienne is that I think Brienne is characterized as being a lot more naive relative to other young(ish) adults—in the “sheltered, arrogant popular kid” vs “wiser, more cynical unpopular kid” dichotomy you’re referring to that GRRM falls into, Brienne’s a little hard to classify in the same category as Jon and Arya and Tyrion, because while all of the latter three make mistakes and have major areas of naivete, they ARE kind of set up as nonconformist voices of reason. Whereas Brienne’s virtuous and brave and talented, to be sure, but she has the kind of embarrassing limerent crush on Renly that is way more characteristic of Sansa than Arya and the kind of innocently rigid moral code people are always accusing Ned of (she’s much YOUNGER than Ned, mind, so that doesn’t reflect poorly on her). What I mean is—I think Brienne’s set up as way more naive, and even sometimes unflatteringly naive, than the rest of the people in that category.
That’s not to say that GRRM doesn’t have a characterization trend of favoring these heroic misfits (Lyanna in absentia!) over people who’ve learned to function more conventionally; I just disagree that Brienne is in the same favoritism-to-the-point-of-flattening category as Dany and Jon and Tyrion. Not that she’s not an authorial favorite, obvs, but she gets to be…… uncool more with her character flaws, a la Sansa. Not to Sansa’s EXTENT, but still.